Try something totally different ,works for me ,how about float fishing with a big fat dew worm ,seriously try this and I'll bet you get a surprise.Another little trick is to float fish a coho fly such as a Kelseys hope or bead head rolled muddler ,olive wooly buggers also attract coho ,be different ,all the difference in a gong show atmosphere.Or you could drift fish with 10 ft leaders :rolleyes: