POS Clerk -
Looks like the rest of the gang has the issue pretty well covered.

I would only add that as referred to above the HGMPs are tool to help with the evaluation of potential "takes". It is something that has been "invented" as the process moves along. Early on both the format and content of the document was not clearly defined added to general confusion in the submittal process - should not be an excuse for delays but makes those delays understandable (at least for some).

As an aside on continual frustrate for myself is that committents and modifications in both hatvheries and harvest are being made and progress has been made in reducing impacts on ESA listed salmon for those Hs are real. However in the habitat arena one would be hard press to shown similar progress. The pressure continues to be placed on the fishers and I would ask when is the rest of society step up.

Tight lines
S malma