i remember reading about those Michigan boys fishing one way in 1 inch of visability and a different way in 2 or 3 inches of vis. Around here someone who tried that would fish all alone, food for thought. When I was young and would fish no matter what under any conditions, caught many fish when the river was "out". My first steelhead came at Lewis St. with trees floating down the river, casting an unweighted sand shrimp directly upstream behind a root ball next to shore,I was too young to know any better. Now that I am older and know what I am doing I will stay home an feel sorry for myself 'cause the rivers are out.(sarcasm)