Forgot to mention.......used the "improved clinch" knot or what I call the double clinch knot. Never had any problems with this......and I use the to tie:

1. braid to regular backing line

2. braid to swivels

Well its the knot I use 100 % of the time.

Works for me, if I get the tag end thur both loops, wet the line, and slowly pull it tight.

"worse day sport fishing, still better than the best day work"
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"Worse day sport fishing, still better than the best day working"

"I thought growing older, would take longer"