I agree with ya Sol-on-the-duck, but I did have a labatts blue hat that was just getting broke in, roe, sweat, blood, fishslime stains pretty much covering it. Fishing on a windy day about a month ago the SOB flew off from my head into a fast run and that was the last I have seen of it. I am currently bonding with a new cap but she just does not have the same fit.