4Salt.....I would love to see you at a meeting. Vedder is giving a talk Tuesday the 10th on float fishing ....He told me that I pissed him off worse than anyone EVER....We had a short agreement not to argue politics...but we both went off the wagon....Someone told me today that they figured me out the first day they met me...they figured out not to take what I say to heart or too seriously ....Unless , of course, the subject is fishing...