Harley,

I agree with what you say I just have some questions regarding members of NATO and the UN. I think it is in the best interest of Russia, France,Germany, China to force us to go it alone. If they can stall ,derail hinder our economy and wold position in any way they gain economically. The gap between us and them is huge and growing more so daily. China for example has emptied the coffers in an attempt to build infrastructure and sustain economic growth a 8% for the past 10 years. It looks like inflation there is about to explode and could drive the whole system into chaos. Russia is in a similar boat, Germany and France need growth.We are the only superpower economically and defesively. For the first time there is a country that cannot be taken down with conventional warefar. So they have to work on our softer spots. I think this is overt on their part and events since the war started have proven this point.

so I ask the question what does NATO and the UN have to gain in helping us? Remember who is on the UN security council.

BTW I also think the post 911 sympathy and goodwill was a myth and can post many sources to back it up. I think these countries and people are jealous of our sucess as a nation and see us as arrogant long before 911 and Iraq. It's like Seattle fans being jealous of the Yankees. They think they have a economic team advantage. I think it's all in the attitude and love the Yankees. I like the M's as well.
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