Eddie,

Is it fair to compare Reagan and Goldwater or even Clinton for that matter to GW without 911 to contend with?

Even clinton wanted to go into Iraq and thought it was the right thing to do. What stopped him the polls. I have some problems with the Patriot act . But polls show Americans would give up some freedoms for saftey. besides when whatevcer happens this summer in the US re AlQueda happens you gets the blame for letting it happen? Not JK.

I also think it is fair to criticze and compare the patriot act to environmental law. If you really looked into most environmental law it is just like the patriot act. They dissolves your rights like no other set of laws except those by the IRS. Yet most here think they relate only to industry. Few understand the quadruple safeguards provided by City, County, State and federal requirements. It's easier for Al Queda to work freely in the US than it is for a private landowner to build a farm pond in King county.