i tie all of my leaders 6' long(that's how tall i am), i can trim them as the situation seems fit, you can't make them any longer....i'm sure i have flossed some fish but i'm not going to fish YOUR dick-length leaders just to make sure i'm not "flossing" any fish, pretty much all biters, flossers are just inceDENTAL catch...you want to talk, you can catch me on bodog.com raking people's money, join in on the fun, please let me be your reference!!texas hold 'em