I've seen the Elwha dam presentation 3 times.. I think the guys name was Brian Winters. Great guy, incredible program. However, its frustrating that each time I've heard him, the removal gets backed up another year. Last time it was over some water concerns for the tribe, and paper mill. In a way it will be a sad day when it actually happens. I really like fishing that water for salmon and steelhead, once they start, its likely that I'll never get the chance to wet a line there again. It may be as long as 30 years before they allow fishing. I know its a worthy project, but It'll be bitter-sweet.