I like them alot.....I have run them out of lapush when the silvers are on top. No wieght or DR. Hooked a few silvers. After that i took it in on the rocks and pulled it fast for sea bass. It wasnt in the water 20 seconds when i hooked into a 25+ chinook. What a suprise to see that fish fly out of the water with it. Even more of a suprising was we got him in with about a 100 sea loins watching the whole thing.