Kaiser, there were a handful of us out here sticking it to the neo cons from well before the appointment of the anti christ. Notice those wacky neocons are no where to be found now? IMO, the ultimate goal was to cut a swath through the mideast from Israel to India while siphoning off our tax dollars and oil profits into the hands of a few. One out of three ain't bad when the main objective of getting rich was accomplished. At this point, if we aren't going to pull out, I'd like a draft based upon how you voted. If you voted for this Admin or didn't vote at all you and/or your children are at the top of the list next to congressmen's and senator's sons. Where are all those flag waving street corner pro war idiots now? Did they all run out and enlist? I remember the likes of John Carlson leading groups to go out and flag wave. If you didn't honk then you were a traitor. We were literally on the very edge of a dictatorship in this country. It's sad to say, but our men and women really are fighing and dying for our freedom. If it had been the piece of cake the neo cons had expected this country would be a terrible place to live.