rognsue. Thanks! I'll give Heirman park a try. I have a aluminum boat that'll I can launch at Snohomish with. Will try it next weekend my son can be with me. Never launched there before, so it'll be fun to check out some new waters from the boat. Would go out on it sooner, but I have a deal with my wife that I never go onto the water alone in the boat. Probably a good thing for safety reasons, since I love the water but can't swim....go figure......