hell, on the satsop anymore, the river can be dead and there'd be 30 trailers in the highway 12 launch parking lot, come january/february.

i think a lot of it has to do with guys trying to get away from the madness on the wynoochee, only to bring it to the satsop. i can't say i blame them, but it doesn't make it any more fun for me. you're pretty much wasting your time fishing it for steelhead until about a month from now anyway...