Actually, part of the reason China is the biggest polluter is becasue of outsourcing. When we closed up our steel plants and other heavy industry, the acid rain and other pollution went overseas with it. Because of the jetstream, out here on the west coast, we get to enjoy and share in China's pollution even though we got rid of the manufacturing.

And I do enjoy your previous comment about having interesting discourse, even if we may not agree on all or any issues