Dont worry Ryan, when the season opens the herring are coming out. I have several friends who are fly fishing guides and and have been interested in learning how. I have some nice olive and grey clousers ready to go. As far as getting an 8 wt. its coming. I want to do some nymphing this winter for steelies so I am looking at 10 foot 8wt.'s and will probably get one this fall. I have been outfished by my buddy with the fly rod and the olive clousers too many times to not want to learn how to fish this way. -Tom