Oregonian
" Todd, what do you think about the idea of banning/controlling gun ownership as a means to reduce crime ?"
" I should offer my opinion first I guess, I think it's ridiculous...
I would rather see armed self defense taught in school at about 7th grade and encourage all responsible citizens to carry a weapon upon completion of that training..."
Todd
Registered: 03-08-1999
Posts: 6503
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA Honestly, I don't think all that much about it at all...no one's banned my guns, and I doubt they will.
I think the best way to control gun deaths (which are so grossly out of step with the rest of the world that it's not even funny, though we never seem to like to talk about that) is to do a few things...
1. Up the penalties...considerably...for committing a crime with a gun.
2. Up the penalties...considerably...for the guy who negligently allowed another to commit a crime, or an injury, with his own gun.
3. Up the penalties...considerably...for carrying a firearm while drinking or doing drugs.
4. Up the penalties...considerably...for people who accidentally shoot people or property.
These should be zero tolerance laws...a dumbass like Dick Cheney should NEVER be allowed to purchase a hunting license, much less carry a weapon...ever again. He has his chance, and he committed the worst offense that gun owner can ever, ever commit...he didn't look where he was shooting.
Zero tolerance.
People are scared of the criminals out there with guns, so that's why they feel the need to carry one with them, wherever they go? Fine...assauge their fear by sending those caught committing gun crimes up the river for a looonngg time, and for those who are busted during gun crimes, they never get to own a gun again.
That will reduce the amount of gun-toting criminals that are out there.
This divergent topic brings a few things to mind...first, here we are talking about something else...again...when the topic is the lies that Palin and McSame are telling.
Second...an addition to the list a couple of posts ago...a wingnut is also someone who truly believes that Democrats want to take all your guns away, that Republicans do not want to restrict your gun use/ownership, and that carrying an AK-47 to the ice cream shop should be protected by the Constitution.
Fish on...
Todd
_________________________
Team "Drift Boat Veterans for Truth"
Untra isn't a place, it's a State of Mind.
Top Reply Quote Quick Reply Quick Quote Notify Email Post
#453754 - 52 minutes 2 seconds ago Re: Flat out Lying, A Republican Tradition [Re: Todd]
willametteriveroutlaw
Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 10-26-2002
Posts: 243
Loc: Salem OR Todd,
May of those laws exist, they do little good without enforcement and prison space.
_________________________
Bigot(noun): Anyone a liberal disagress with. *Also see: Fascist.
Top Reply Quote Quick Reply Quick Quote Notify Email Post
#453757 - 45 minutes 30 seconds ago Re: Flat out Lying, A Republican Tradition [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
Todd
River Nutrients
Registered: 03-08-1999
Posts: 6503
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA ...I agree, which is why we need to stop sending thousands of kids to jail for stupid marijuana offenses.
Fish on...
Todd
Edited by Oregonian (09/16/08 07:56 PM)