I've visited many a hunting camp, and most, if not all were well kept. Sure there are slobs out there, as there are in every group.

Fishing, especially near terminal areas, is a whole other story. Fish up on the Hoh, or the Quinault, or the Elwah, or Sol Duc, or a number of other rivers and you'll find not so much trash. Fish th Cowlitz, Kalama, and other easily accessed rivers near large cities, and the dreggs of humanity will seek it out.

I cannot in good conscience vote for someone who is against hunting, against gun ownership (because he sure as hell will have armed protection, so why not me?), or would do anything to diminish in any way the 2nd amendment. I fear that Obama would bring along yet another useless gun ban of some type, just like Wild Bill did, and limit my choice of firearms. Stupid people ban guns based on how they look, which is exactly hwat the democrats did.

If you hunt, you might get my vote. If you don't, you certainly won't.