On the Skagit...we use a second wing bobber and hook. Leave the top bobber bare and the bottom with bait...(shrim or eggs) you'd be surprised but 1/2 the fish are caught on the bare bobber..done this "at least" on 20 occasions myself and several other witnessed. On the Skagit...the nates really like the 1/2 and 1/2 chartreuse orange/red and yellow. But the Skagit is a plunkers river tho...