Thanks, SR. I may check out Lees Ferry. I guess theres some bad snow melt going on right now, blowing out the systems. I talked to a guide down there today and he said the carp and crappie are hitting I almost laughed over the phone at him. But yet again I bet a big carp would bend an 8 weight like a Taco. I want to fish bows and browns not crappie. I'l check out sedona the best I can and ask the locals I guess. Asked the guy in AZ if there was any good swinging water . He had no idea what I was talking about Imagine that!