Hey Catcher, before you go buying a used cheap one, try one out. I'm going to have a new 1/2 man boat built after first of the year. You're more then welcome to try it out then. Don't waste your money buying a cheapo and then try selling it for a reduced price later. Save your money and buy a quality new/used one when you have the dough. Buying a cat is like buying a house, buy expensive now instead of having to sell and try to upgrade later. Between Os and I we can possible hook you up with something decent.