just read your part of the thread. Stir the pot time. So we don't mandate young people or anyone have health care ins. I can buy the infringement on personal liberties argument right after you explain who in the hell is going to pay their bills? If everyone got a itemized bill from the providers for actual cost of the services then prorated cost of malpractice insurance, provider cost for uninsured and unpaid services for those who can't pay imagine what would happen?

Lets take it one step farther for the sake of argument. Imagine tort reform, coupled with insurance reform to deal with cherry picking and preexisting conditions, medical service reform so that providers could only charge you for the services they provided you directly, then require mandatory coverage with federal subsidies for low income based upon the ability to pay. Not a chance in hell it would happen as lawyers, advocates, just every interest group in existence would come unglued. Infringing upon freedoms, my god your killing the working poor, what no massive court settlements,........I think the list of one liners would fill pages.

It is what it is and a pig is a pig. Follow the money on both sides of the issue, both lib & conservative as both have been bought and paid for, legally of course.