salmo, to get your answer you simply must go there and read for yourself. the Adm. and the Mods are true thugs. they bust out the F-bombs like nobody's buissness. let brother brewer break it down for yeaws. if you think PP is rough at times, PP is Jr varsity wrestling while that other board is UFC! guys like english pete, dans, kaykay, aphid angless get crapped out like bricks from brick machine, daily!