The backyard isn't completely fenced in - there's the "rock" wall between us and neighbors. That wouldn't keep any dog in.

Unless one of you or Art is going to pony up the needed funds for full fencing of the backyard, I just don't see a dog in my future.

But yeah, the kids *would* love a lab.

My cat is the mellowest cat alive. He'd get used to a new puppy in 2 seconds and it wouldn't be an issue after that.

As for a dog name - Stam's got that locked up with his dogs: "Dumb Dog".

Best name ever for a dog!