Yeah, agree with others. I didn't mean to imply to get Sage rods; lots of others out there but the important thing for me was to get a line with a short head, say in the 20-27 foot range. I agree with SF in that for roll casting and single hand beach fishing, over-lining it by two line sizes works pretty well.

Based on the recommendation by some pros, I bought the Sage Indicator line. It single and roll casts very nice but there are better lines for more traditional two-hand casting. I have some of these if you are interesting in trying them. I had them for sale but didn't have any takers.