Doc has been pretty quite but in the past Francis put a lot of effort into trying get his arms around C&R mortality. Simple fact is C&R for Steelies seems to work but does it reduce spawners and repeaters, probably but not like salmon.

C&R has a huge take in salmon and farther upstream safer it becomes. From a personal side try this. I sat in many years of meetings with agency staff and at NOF to hear Ron Warren and Kirt Hughes apply a 10% hooking mortality to Chinook released in the bay makes one wonder what ethics exist if they do,WDF&W in harvest. Both those guys know full well it is total BS and the bay should have been closed this year. As well as South Monte down stream until at least the 10th of October to allow the Summers to clear. No non treaty nets until Chinook have cleared or whatever to zero Chinook impacts if they had a season. Treaty harvest should have been restricted and scheduled in target weeks with reduced Chinook impacts.

That is what should have happened in the Chehalis ( Hump little different ) but you see what we have instead. Greed? No not really but rather business as usual. You see ethics and true conservation motives ARE NOT what drives GH management be it sport, commercial, or tribal. It is all about killing fish and sporties do it just as do others just differently but WDF&W .................. that agency ( as to harvest ) sold its soul and any ethical standards a long time ago and are really void of any now days. Duplicity, deception, and down right dishonesty are the standard requirements to manage harvest.

It is what it is.