thanks for all the info. turns out that nobody really stocks the boots that i wanted, so i ordered them straight from danner. they're in portland, the boots should arrive by wed. free shipping, both ways if needed. same price as cabela's ('cept cabelas wanted $19 to ship them, though they were to ship directly from danner). i have had lowa's, and asolos before, and i did try the kenetreks. The kenetreks are the shizzle, but they're $400. the danner's i bought set me back $280, made in the usa (down the street in portland) and in 20 years, i can get them refurbished for around $90. they'll take a little breaking in, but i'm confident that i'll be happy. if I'm not, i'll let y'all know....

hey art, been out fishin?


willy