McMAhon and Dan s. I know that they do, I was just stating those who do not believe they are a significant impact need to readjust their view. And some people on "other" forums and such believe all the brats reach their hatchery or get caught. As I was stating uneducated people on the topic.

And Dan S. I presume the reason why the offspring of the mixed stock doesn't return in viable numbers is that they are not truely bred for that system, as we see in so many rivers why hatchery fish fail at making it back in decent numbers. Alot of people are completely unaware, alot of people couldn't tell you the difference between a nate and hatchery othan than finclip and bred in cement pond. Alot of people do not understand much of this, and through my way I made this little video to somewhat educate. I could have done a much better job of explaining it in the video, I was on the spot though and was just upset to realize what that fish was doing.

"Alot of people" does not describe this forum, this forum is well educated for the most part. "Alot of people" describes the other 99% of fishermen out there. I couldn't even grasp the number of actual fishermen who fished for steelhead last year or even salmon, yet I do know it is a whole bunch more than what visits PP or any other forum. And not to say that those people are uneducated, what I will say is a significant portion of people fishing for steelhead do not want to acknowledge a problem with these fish, or simply just don't know about it.