Jim Foreskin King 5 snooze Push him under the plow!! As for the chains on the 4x4 I saw a Landrover in Woodinvill with 1 on the front and 1 on the back The 1 on the back was flapping so bad I wanted to see how long until the fender fell off. I love the snow and the people. you need a safe place to watch and something warm to drink