The Ice is suppose to be gone at the secret lake in feb. Fly fishing in the cold is great. In November when we hit it, you fished for acouple hours untill you coundnt feel your feet,then got out and walked alittle untill they hurt. Then you knew your feet were still there. Zen uses a small pram to keep his paws warm. I dont know about fishingfella , he is from over there so he's just used to it. Plus just knowing that underneath me is one of the biggest rainbows waiting for my fly keeps me warm.