TM, of all people I thought you would have understood.

In order to be a true zen master one must embrace all methods of angling and be conversant on all manners of the angle.

At the zen powerbait retreat 5 other neophytes learned how to be "one with the rod tip" and detect even the most minute twitch of the line....

That is why I won the $$$ pool for "first limit" both days.

In April I will be giving retreats for the casted fly... TM, you are welcome to learn.