Thanks for all the info . I am attempting to get a second opinion from a new group of Dr. My main problems are the pain issues I have started taking a new pill Nerontin. This gives some relief. The part that effects me the most is I have only about 50% strength in my hand and 2 fingers that don't work so well. Since I work construction this is a real issue. I have been thinking about the chiropractor , but have been warned against it. I will keep you posted on the out come. thanks again. This place is wonderful I have meet no one face to face but after lurking and even posting a few times I feel like I know a lot of you. If a stranger on the river or lakes yells and asks if you post here it may be me. Hope to meet some of you in the future. If things don't go well there may be a hell of a yard sale. Hope the wife doesn't sell my stuff for what I told her I paid for it. okebye JP