I went out today... had my fly line trailing and my buddy had a wedding ring and worm trailin us. we were goin nice and sloooow for trolling, and what do ya know, we only get this stupid little perch... I hate perch...they would be cool, but the fact that i could reel them in with one finger if i tried just ruins it. I dont blame anything cause that red wedding ring usually limits us, so it was just a bad day. i definitely have NOT given up on 'nids