Hey thanks for all of your responses....my information gathering is complete. I have several lakes to fish, and directions and info on all of them. I have the packet from Stacie, and I'm ready to go....Hey Traut, of course I've heard of Elizabeth. We used to play them all the time in pre-season for baseball. Used to love going up there to play them. Mighty fine looking women. I grew up in Lakewood, NJ....