ya, fff, i seen the same thing on the green last night, people ripping them in left and right , snagged....and keeping them, you will never see these same guys out on a cold december day, pitching for stealhead, cuz its actually a lot harder to actually fish for them..rather than spot, shoot, and snag..i say it would be neat to ge together and head to the river and fish, bring some camera's, makes some vids of them snagging..