Thank you Salmo, Will add some bling to some of my next ones.

I could tie some of the first pattern weighted but they are more for swing fishing than deep pockets.

I will keep trying to tie deer hair wogs but trimming them creates something that might scare the fish away. Fish probbaly don't care if it is lop sided I know and could put a motion they will hit on the retrieve. Have to see if I have any floatant or just get the camp dry out.