Restore what watershed? This concept that the billions ( with a B ) that is needed is even remotely in the future is a dream. If 20 years from now the habitat is the same as today with the streams that empty into the harbor it will be a major miracle. The tree farms are just coming around on the first 40 year rotation and into 3rd harvest in places. Since the early 70's hobby farms have populated nearly every RMZ in all the watersheds right to the edge of the tree farms. Restoration gezz, nah and besides few restoration efforts are really about restoration ( some really good exceptions ) but about maintaining access to harvest.

The tribal harvest will not be restrained as they get their share right up front, period as it is not open to discussion. All that this means is non tribal harvest will pretty much be a thing of the past as non tribal impacts will be taken other places. Oh their would be some access I am sure but limited and no go on Coho period. The Humptulips would in all likelyhood be similar to what the Wynoochee is now.

Having been away from fish issues and harvest since I retired this thread is a bit off a eye opener ( along with Wynoochee mitigation ) to me as that lack of understanding of how harvest / habitat / tree farms / the history of all interact in effecting basin productivity. The pure science and philosophy some put forward is VERY GOOD ...................... and dead wrong. Not because of the science but because the politics of and desire to harvest fish doom it to failure. Everything is a compromise in anything we do to protect the creature and yet continue to harvest it.

Oh yeah, your not ignorant or naive but rather and idealist! Stay that way as long as you can but solutions require pragmatism and in the end it took 20 years for the system to wear my butt down and frankly I was a hard nut to crack. It will get you to in the end.


Edited by Rivrguy (09/26/11 05:20 PM)
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