I don't see it as stigmatizing people; I see it as telling them if they're going to be sucking on the government teat they have a few rules they have to follow. One of those rules is they can't be too fukked up on drugs they bought with government money to go out and look for work.
So you and Martymoosie think gubiment has the right to dictate what you do on your own free time?
Come on Hank ... police states are for 3rd world countries, not America.
Marty - dont even try to dumb down the conversation with the illogic you posted.
Drinking is legal ... yet you drive with them every day. Should a alcohol device be mandatory in all our cars too?
try again..............
Drinking is legal. Drugs aren't. There's a difference between doing whatever you want on your "free time" vs. illegal substances. Just like criminal checks are commonplace to find housing or employment, drug tests should be too. If you haven't been breaking the law, you have nothing to hide.
Your welcome to do whatever the F you want on your own time, so long as its within the bounds of what's legal.
and yet marty moose referenced in his first reply about the "hung over" A&P mechanic.
Nobody drug tests for alchohol so how is that rellevant?
Define your "drugs" and what is acceptable for these low life welfare convicts to be doin on thier own personal time

You cant ... because neither can the gubimint.
Hence - drug testing is a stupid waste of time and money.
Get your head out of your @$$ if your going to ask me how alcohol is relevant when you talked about it in your prior post. I'm just following up on your comments...
It's relevant because you mentioned it being a similar issue to drugs, regarding that alcohol is legal and you brought up the point about having an alcohol device in cars being mandatory/or not. Your right, it isn't tested nor should be because it is legal.
Drugs = any illegal substance or illegal abuse of some type of drug, whether legal or illegal (prescription misuse comes to mind)... Not going to get into the whole pot legality thing. If you want to be paid by the government, you should have to follow their rules, simple as that. Don't like it? Don't sign up for it then.