i love owners...owners owners owners...i dont use the cutting points..i belive they make a bigger hole in turn its not worth it for me...

the SSW's are perfect for me smile and i have never broke one on a fish...but i use 8lb leaders for pretty much everything...even kings...so my leader may break before the hook would...but gami's have broke on me even with 8lbers...but not on a fish..on rocks... smile

I Love Owners smile
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see ya on the river smile