Appreciate the perspective as well. Knowledge is power.

Skyrise brings up a good point.......anyone involved with the inner-dealings of the dept such as Ron is can do us all a huge favor by educating us here.

I admit I had/have some perceptions of the dept that aren't particularly rosy.....for a number of reasons, but Ron put some of those perceptions in a different light and made me consider some things I hadn't previously. I was educated and some of my perceptions have changed.

Region 6, however needs some major work and that will be my ultimate litmus test not just of Phil but the dept. as a whole.