With the drought type conditions we are having here in central california what happens is these fish get really antsy and start cruising looking for water. My buddy got one off the wharf on a blue fox when we were like 15 years old. I have seen many fish landed off that pier. As for the surf the mouths of the various little streams are where to go. Its a long shot but once in a while the conditions are right and you can get into a fish or 2. That day I got 2 i hooked 6 and it was just one of those days,those fish were actually staging in the surf to enter the lagoon of the river.