I know I missed that sale, figures it would be over long before I even think about having any money.

The Celilo is a nice rod. I got to use one of my buddies this year. Just not sure I want to put it in my kids hands being they have never hooked a salmon. Not for lack of trying just haven't hit one yet.

I will just have to go and feel them and see. Seems like my 11' Fenwick legacy HMG was heavier than the Whuppin stick someone had on the river but that rod was only 9'.

I am glad you mentioned the ceramic quides handling braided lines. Will likely have braid for both of them regardless of the rods I get for the boys.