I want to tie some up but have not had much luck with the San Juan worm nor another brown worm segmented lace body type fly version locally. Is there a version that works better than others for lakes and rivers for trout around here? Here being Grays Harbor.

Also, has anyone ever used them for summer run steelhead?

What technique do you use with them that works for you? Might just be that I am fishing them wrong and the fish don't recognize them as normal prey.