AkKings, That is some of the area our friend was telling us about. It sounds like there are a lot of elk. Hard to take a cow when you are seeing nice bulls too. What was the hunting pressure like and how far off the beaten path were you? Did you pack in and stay or hike in every morning? I'm getting excited now our season starts tomorrow here and sounds like MAYBE rain on monday, that would be great! I now it sounds like I'm prodding everybody for info but I just hate to go down there blind and I'm self employed and had to save all my time off for the hunt so no scout trip. By the way you guys in oregon have been huntin a week now whats the word and what are the elk doing? Straight shooting and good luck. laugh