F4A,

I can't remember what I sent you.

I think 2 approaches will do what you want. You can save a lot of money if you cut and loop lines yourself. Since you can tie flies and jigs, you can do this. I forget what weight fly rod you have. If it's an 8 wt, I would:

1. Buy a WF8F line, a fairly cheap one like an SA Air Cell Supreme or whatever. They are around $30. After loading it on a reel, take the forward 15' of line and cut it off. Make loops on the 2 cut ends, and you will still have an 8 wt floating line. Then you can loop on any 15' sink tip. You can buy RIO or other brands at Cabela's and most fly shops. You can buy T-8, T-11, and T-14 in bulk or buy the foot from a number of places. (I know a place that has it discounted.) Now you've got a line that does everything the $135 one does.

2. For a shooting head outfit, after putting some 20# or 30# dacron on a reel spool, add 100' of 30# Amnesia or Slick Shooter mono. Make a loop in the end of that, and you can attach shooting heads of LC13 and any other contraption you're willing to try to cast.

These will give you fly fishing gear that should satisfy any deep sunk fly fishing requirements.

Sg