I have had a few negative experiences with the "brown guys" from the HD parking lot.

Had a pair that wanted $15 and hour after they were on the job for a couple of hours (when they agreed to $12 when I picked them up), they convinced my associate onsite to take them back to HD while I was on a material run.

Another time I had a pair that just didn't want to work as hard as I was. . . . I am done paying "illegals" to do any work for me. .. it is hard to find good help period these day it seems.

My 10 and 12 yr old neighbor boys work harder when I hire them to do yard work for me at my place. . . .