You left Montana & came here?? Should be the other way around. heh heh. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. I hunt elk for the meat too, you could break a tooth trying to eat horns. Would you be willing to go to eastern WA? Most westside is 3 point minimum & most eastside is spike only. I've hunted both with better success on the eastside. I'll be on the eastside this year if you want to try. More like the country in Montana. The only thing I got drawn for this year was antelope in MT.