Thanks alot Karry.................Those rods hae taken my abuse for two years now and if you fish with me or around me you have seen the " HOOKSET " or the chuck of anger or what have you but the rods hae outlasted the reels that hae been put on them.................best [Bleeeeep!] twitching rod you can draw up period!

Thanks to Karry and Rainshadow for the insight on this...............

Peace
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