thanks for the opinions guys. would love to pick up a nice curado /chronarch, or a calcutta(still have a thing for the round reels) but I didn't know if I would be better off trying to find one used in my price range(wife+newborn son=broke a$$) or just going brand new......price range brought up the Okuma question.........either way I will probably just end up overhauling my ambassadeurs. thank you for the info either way.