Joad, just as a blind squirrel finds an occasional nut, you're occasionally right. I am getting older, not that there's much alternative, and my hard drive isn't as large as it needs to be in this information age. But since you drank more than your fair share, and most Coogs drank more than their fair share, how then does one calculate exactly how much is a "fair share?" Which leads one to believe that you won by conveniently standing in the corner and being the last student to fall down. And no in regards to granite counters in the new kitchen. Granite counters went in the powder room and master bath, not that that has anything to do with the beer thread. Yeah, granola all the way, along with Birkenstocks and Lezbaru. Never could afford Yuppie, NTTAWWT.